Player Staff Meeting November 10th, 2002
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sanvean the Enigmatic says:
"If you want to speak, wish to me and I'll put you in the queue of
speakers."
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic says:
"I advise you to spend a little time writing up what you want to say
ahead of time, if there;s a lot of it."
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic says:
"Also, please don't spam the rest of the room with looks and emotes and
stuff like that. Some folks are on slow connections, and nobody likes too
much spam."
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic says:
"And use OOC to speak, not say."
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic says:
"The first item people wanted to talk about "city roleplaying". That
was Tony's suggestion, so let me open up the floor to whatever people would
liek to say about it or questions they would like to ask."
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic says:
"wish to me if you'd like to speak"
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic gives the Staff of Pontification to the short male
wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask.
>
The short male wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask says:
"ok, first of all hello to everyone, I'd like to say few words about
burglars and breaking into estates, houses, wagons"
>
The short male wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask says:
"I've some xp with burglars, and one thing that bothers me most of all,
is that aren't enough houses in the city to break in, and about estates"
>
The short male wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask says:
"static, non-moving guards really make it more difficult if I want to
stick to rp and the environment"
>
The short male wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask says:
"I'd really like to see a more realistic environemnt, like patroling
guards, movement, so I can sneak past them, or hide, or actually feel I am
breaking in"
>
The short male wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask says:
"also, planning ahead, scouting the area, non of it exist at the moment
as there aren't many roofs"
>
The very short male wearing a floppy-eared tregil mask says:
"of course"
>
The short male wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask says:
"windows could be a nice way in or out"
>
The short male wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask says:
"climbing gates"
>
The very short figure in a dark, hooded cloak says:
"okie dokie smokie"
>
The short male wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask says:
"I think you get my point, I don't want to babble too much"
>
The short male wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask says:
"bottom line, I really would like to see an imporvement at that area, as
I think its a little bit neglected, and I didn't see any improvement for
several years now"
>
The short male wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask says:
"I'm sure once its more realistic, burglars won't type 'get all chest'
on every chest they see"
>
The short male wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask gives the Staff of
Pontification to Sanvean the Enigmatic.
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic gives the Staff of Pontification to the very short
female wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask.
>
The very short female wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask says:
"I'd like to address that from the other point of view."
>
The very short female wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask says:
"Some places would be damn near impossible to break in, such as noble
estates. They shouldn't be made so that climbing a gate gets you past what
would IC'ly be a large military presence."
>
The very short female wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask says:
"The non moving NPCs are there as a representation of the fact that
there would be more than one or two guards at a gate like that"
>
The very short female wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask says:
"Also, a lot of people don't seem to take into consideration that
IC'ly, people are living and sleeping in the house"
>
The very short female wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask says:
"If you quit out in your home and wake up and even the BED has been
stolen, how are you supposed to react to that. And that's what happens
now. Burglars break in and strip a place to the bone."
>
The very short female wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask says:
"I think there has to be a medium ground but until the players can
be responsible enough in that role to play it realistically, the alternative
has to be an increased level of difficulty."
>
The very short female wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask gives the Staff
of Pontification to Sanvean the Enigmatic.
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic gives the Staff of Pontification to the short male
wearing a mask of Thrain Ironsword.
>
The short male wearing a mask of Thrain Ironsword says:
"Just my two sid, but... On the Estates and most other places you
mentioned, having guards that walk away doesn't make that much sense,
since its their job to guard the door.. It's not a cheerful job, but they
get paid to do just that. Stand there "
>
The short male wearing a mask of Thrain Ironsword says:
"Stand there and guard the gates from thieves. They aren't movie guards,
who do everything wrong, so that the thief hero can waltz in, past them.
Estates really should be that difficult to get into, as the Vader before me
said. Now, about houses, I"
>
The short male wearing a mask of Thrain Ironsword says:
"I'll agree.. I would like to see more land plots available.. I know
the north is working on that, but the south could use some space for players
to build houses, especially in commoner quarters... Something to look into,
as houses provide a lot mo"
>
The short male wearing a mask of Thrain Ironsword says:
"a lot more realistic targets for a burglar. And on thieves clearing up
places? That will -never- stop. Players will clear anything they can carry,
and often come back for the rest. Simple fact."
>
The short male wearing a mask of Thrain Ironsword gives the Staff of
Pontification to Sanvean the Enigmatic.
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic gives the Staff of Pontification to the slender,
scorpion-tattooed man.
>
The slender, scorpion-tattooed man says:
"I believe the main problem lay not in the lack of buildings,
directions and opportunities for a burglar to break into a home, but
rather in the place of a 'burglar' in the game as it is."
>
The slender, scorpion-tattooed man says:
"People create a character 'called' a burglar and think that their main
focus and thrust is that they need to burgle and break into homes, steal the
goods and survive on that coin."
>
The slender, scorpion-tattooed man says:
"I believe with the way the playerbase, size of the city and way the
homes are coded as they are - this is a flawed and unrealistic hope for the
class and a misrespresentation of what the burglar class should be."
>
The slender, scorpion-tattooed man says:
"I would bid that the burglar class be changed to a 'spy' class of some
type, who has the SKILL to break into home for -that- purpose as a side, not
as the main of their business."
>
The slender, scorpion-tattooed man says:
"10 PC burglars all breaking into the 10 accessible homes once a RL day
is going to result in a lot of disappointed and frustrated burglars, thus -
change the class toward something its skills and concept can more readily
support. A spy, espionage"
>
The slender, scorpion-tattooed man says:
"...class, rather than burglar."
>
The slender, scorpion-tattooed man gives the Staff of Pontification to
Sanvean the Enigmatic.
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic gives the Staff of Pontification to the squat,
ruddy-skinned dwarf.
>
The squat, ruddy-skinned dwarf says:
"well i don't know much about breaking into homes but i must say i "
>
The squat, ruddy-skinned dwarf says:
"have seen as a new player a lot of different characters with accen"
>
The squat, ruddy-skinned dwarf says:
"with accents in their rp and I think if more people put a lot of"
>
The squat, ruddy-skinned dwarf says:
"realistic accents to show where they grew up it really helps RP"
>
The squat, ruddy-skinned dwarf gives the Staff of Pontification to Sanvean
the Enigmatic.
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic gives the Staff of Pontification to the short figure
in a black and azure hooded cloak wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask.
>
The short figure in a black and azure hooded cloak wearing a cheap, black
Darth Vader mask says:
"This is in regards to the first comments made by the First Vader"
>
The short figure in a black and azure hooded cloak wearing a cheap, black
Darth Vader mask says:
"On this matter I would just like to say. 1) there isn't enough places
to steal from. I have owned houses in the past and continually having to
restock it is a pain, If there would be more selections to go to then I
wouldn't be restocking all the t"
>
The short figure in a black and azure hooded cloak wearing a cheap, black
Darth Vader mask says:
"Time"
>
The short figure in a black and azure hooded cloak wearing a cheap, black
Darth Vader mask says:
"Secondly, I have been in a few instances where windows are written in,
why can't that be an alternative to breaking in through the doors.Or allowing
what is in there to be seen if they care to rip it off? . He has valid points
and I don't even pla"
>
The short figure in a black and azure hooded cloak wearing a cheap, black
Darth Vader mask says:
"Play thieves"
>
The short figure in a black and azure hooded cloak wearing a cheap, black
Darth Vader mask says:
"Perhaps making the costs of housing a little more affordable would
perhaps even it out and allow the poor more chances of utilizing the their
abilities without having to "hit" the same target time in and time out. "
>
The short figure in a black and azure hooded cloak wearing a cheap, black
Darth Vader mask says:
"Though lately I have noticed I have been broken into, kudos for not
taking the heavier objects and hauling them down the road with you. "
>
The short figure in a black and azure hooded cloak wearing a cheap, black
Darth Vader mask gives the Staff of Pontification to Sanvean the Enigmatic.
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic gives the Staff of Pontification to the extremely
short and thin figure in an ankle-length purple djellabah.
>
The extremely short and thin figure in an ankle-length purple djellabah
says:
"Just a quick thought upon what was said earlier about people sleeping
in houses. It occured to me the other day that maybe there should be some
form of mechanism for seeing if someone is quit out in a room? Or at least
a certain room."
>
The extremely short and thin figure in an ankle-length purple djellabah says:
"Maybe not the Gaj, or the Barrel ground floor, or upstairs in the Sanc,
but it would seem to me that if you go into a home, you could "look bed" or
something, and see if there was anyone on it. Then you could play
realistically if you broke in, a"
>
The extremely short and thin figure in an ankle-length purple djellabah says:
"along the same vein, you would then be able to see if your employee or
employer was dead, or just sleeping. It'd help with that, "Oh, I thought you
were dead!" syndrome when you go out of town to a marriage or something. I
realize this is slight"
>
The extremely short and thin figure in an ankle-length purple djellabah says:
"ly off topic, but I find it an appropriate forum to suggest this in
reference to burgling. I also agree that perhaps a renaming of the burglar
class might be of some use; maybe even just rename them agent, or something
neutral like that."
>
The extremely short and thin figure in an ankle-length purple djellabah says:
"It's also seeming to me that there seems to be a large call for more
housing opportunities - maybe open up a project to the players to make "
>
The extremely short and thin figure in an ankle-length purple djellabah says:
"them. I'm sure they'd be ready in a day or two at the most."
>
The extremely short and thin figure in an ankle-length purple djellabah
gives the Staff of Pontification to Sanvean the Enigmatic.
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic gives the Staff of Pontification to the short male
wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask.
>
The short male wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask says:
"First of all, about breaking into estates, there is no such thing as
a place you cannot break into. Second, as a burglar I'd like to get ahold
of some plans or maps of the inside, bribe some guards for inside tips,
etc. Usually that doesn't happen "
>
The short male wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask says:
"because guards are honest, strict and loyal."
>
The short male wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask says:
"second, about sleeping people. many times I've watched the house,
and no one is going in or out, of course, so I decide on my own that I've
done my best to RP me watchign the door, I assume there is no one in"
>
The short male wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask says:
"and then I break. I agree with the guy who mentioned changing it
from burglar to spy, or something else of the same guideline"
>
The short male wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask says:
"I do hope that there will be some changes made to the class/environment,
as this has no changed for a long time"
>
The short male wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask gives the Staff of
Pontification to Sanvean the Enigmatic.
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic gives the Staff of Pontification to Vendyra the Queen
of Purity and Yoohoo.
>
Vendyra the Queen of Purity and Yoohoo says:
"I'd like to address how players see a burglar or pick-pocket. These
guilds are generally stereotyped as hard to play, or easy to powergame. This
isn't entirely true. I would like to encourage people to try playing a more
subtle thief."
>
Vendyra the Queen of Purity and Yoohoo says:
"I'm suggesting that you don't have to steal from everyone you see
passed-out, or try to break into every house. Many notable characters in
literary fiction have been portrayed as thieves by simply conning people
out of their money."
>
Vendyra the Queen of Purity and Yoohoo says:
"Devise a scheme to subtly trick them out of their money, without even
needing to try and get your hand into their backpack. There are numerous
methods of thievery that can be looked up online. The internet is a lush
resource and you'll find some"
>
Vendyra the Queen of Purity and Yoohoo says:
"thing applicable to every guild. Don't see a guild as a set of
skills, see it as an opportunity to generalize what your character does."
>
Vendyra the Queen of Purity and Yoohoo gives the Staff of Pontification to
Sanvean the Enigmatic.
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic gives the Staff of Pontification to the extremely short
female wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask.
>
The very short figure in a dusty, hooded, brown military aba says:
"maybe a bribe skill would work for the burglaring issues, you'd get a
chance of the guard opening the gate/door for you, course the more sids you
offer them the better the chance. And the npc guard would need a set amount.
I don't think burglars"
>
The extremely short female wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask says:
"I'd like to change the topic a little bit to speak of social structure
and consistency, as explained in the new Social Documentation put forth by
Sanvean."
>
The extremely short female wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask says:
"Its very easy to forget and place our own ooc morals/codes on city
roleplay, but inappropriate if paying attention to the social structure of
the city. While anyone can certainly RP in any way they like within bounds,
breaking social morays by ap"
>
The extremely short female wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask says:
"breaking social morays by applying westernized views of such things as
bastards or concubines should come with the expected IC consequences."
>
The extremely short female wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask says:
"While I think its great to have some characters playing exceptions to
the rules..hating this type of character or that, when a large portion of
characters start to place American/Western values on such things, I
personally believe it harms the env"
>
The extremely short female wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask says:
".. harms the environment."
>
The extremely short female wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask gives
the Staff of Pontification to Sanvean the Enigmatic.
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic gives the Staff of Pontification to the short male
wearing a mask of Thrain Ironsword.
>
The short male wearing a mask of Thrain Ironsword says:
"I agree there is not such thing as a place you cannot get into. But,
there are such things as "virtually" unbreakable places.. Places which if
you are intent on breaking into, only a large show of force, or some clever
conning will get you into."
>
The short male wearing a mask of Thrain Ironsword says:
"So, forget trying to climb over the gates by yourself. The guards would
just pull you down. Either show up with a large amount of 'rinthers, intent
on overtaking the gates, through force.. Or.. Devise plans to be let inside."
>
The short male wearing a mask of Thrain Ironsword says:
"On the spy idea, I agree completely.. The class really should be changed
to something else like that, that can support itself with code better..."
>
The short male wearing a mask of Thrain Ironsword gives the Staff of
Pontification to Sanvean the Enigmatic.
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic gives the Staff of Pontification to the very short
figure in a dusty, hooded, brown military aba.
>
The very short figure in a dusty, hooded, brown military aba says:
"maybe a bribe skill would work for the burglaring issues, you'd get
a chance of the guard opening the gate/door for you, course the more sids
you offer them the better the chance. And the npc guard would need a set
amount + skill % and some would"
>
The very short figure in a dusty, hooded, brown military aba says:
"be unbribable and you would become wanted. "
>
The very short figure in a dusty, hooded, brown military aba says:
"I don't think burglars truly need to be renamed, if anything Rogue
would be the only acceptable one, each guild does it's own thing oocly,
while icly you can do whatever you want, if you want to balance the
players(newbies) from taking everything,"
>
The very short figure in a dusty, hooded, brown military aba says:
"bump them up into a karma class. "
>
The very short figure in a dusty, hooded, brown military aba says:
"I'll agree that burglars are hard to play, if you're playing the
break into house type of burglar. Maybe pick lock should be branched? "
>
The very short figure in a dusty, hooded, brown military aba gives the
Staff of Pontification to Sanvean the Enigmatic.
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic gives the Staff of Pontification to the extremely
short figure in a hooded, bright green sandcloth cloak.
>
The extremely short figure in a hooded, bright green sandcloth cloak says:
"Quick point on burglars: I don't think changing the name, burglar is
the solution. Agreeing with Vendyra's points, the key here is to change the
mindset of the player behind the character. RP more, rp realistically."
>
The extremely short figure in a hooded, bright green sandcloth cloak says:
"For instance: I once had a burglar break into a house while I was awake,
conscious, talking. The only reason I saw him (in the same, somewhat empty
room) was when he couldn't lift a too-heavy bag - and he had already cleaned
out my trunk."
>
The extremely short figure in a hooded, bright green sandcloth cloak says:
"That was a long time ago so i don't think it's too IC for tonight.
Anyways."
>
The extremely short figure in a hooded, bright green sandcloth cloak says:
"I have come to the conclusion that burgular and thief-type classes
should possibly be karma. I know it's a popular field for new players, but
how can I trust people to RP a thief well, when I see that most thief-players
don't not bother to?"
>
The extremely short figure in a hooded, bright green sandcloth cloak gives
the Staff of Pontification to Sanvean the Enigmatic.
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic gives the Staff of Pontification to the short male
wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask.
>
The short male wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask says:
"soemthing about actual using the 'steal' skill rather than trying to
other methods,"
>
The short male wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask says:
"I've tried that numerous tries with elven characters, but people hate
elves, and"
>
The short male wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask says:
"the first thing coming to their had is me stealing, and I do try to RP
it in a proper"
>
The short male wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask says:
"way, like if I'm sitting at the bar, I won't steal from you if you're
sitting acorss"
>
The short male wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask says:
"the room, but people automatically hates elves, and templars look for
those PC to"
>
The short male wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask says:
"kill them, bugging elves all the time, so all I have left is sneak in,
steal, sneak out."
>
The short male wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask says:
"Everytime I sit more than 5 min, I get bugged by PC soldiers trying to
torture my elf,"
>
The short male wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask says:
"or simply kill him. Numerous times."
>
The short male wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask gives the Staff of
Pontification to Sanvean the Enigmatic.
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic gives the Staff of Pontification to the very short
male wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask.
>
The very short male wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask says:
"I'm getting away from the B&E topic a little, to move onto another
(what I see as a) pressing issue."
>
The very short male wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask says:
"One major problem I've seen as of late is how ho hum the populations
have become when in regards to magick. It used to be seen with wide eyes,
and great fear. No longer "
>
The very short male wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask says:
"does it seem like that, no longer are they hated or even distrusted
within a large portion of the populous, instead it almost seems a part of
mainstream society, which to me seems troubling."
>
The very short male wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask says:
"Can anything be done to bring back the fear and mystique of magick
to the populous?"
>
The very short male wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask says:
"or am I over-reacting?"
>
The very short male wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask says:
"or am I over-reacting?"
>
The squat, ruddy-skinned dwarf sneezes.
>
The very short male wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask gives the
Staff of Pontification to Sanvean the Enigmatic.
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic gives the Staff of Pontification to the extremely
short figure in a dark, hooded cloak.
>
The extremely short figure in a dark, hooded cloak says:
"With all this discussion, I came up with a thought to expand on the
"burglary" class."
>
The extremely short figure in a dark, hooded cloak says:
"And that would be to add a "watch" command, so people can watch the
comings and goings of nearby rooms."
>
The extremely short figure in a dark, hooded cloak says:
"It would be a skill..and dependant on the usual light/dark day/night
stuff.."
>
The extremely short figure in a dark, hooded cloak says:
"And whether or not the room you're trying to watch has a closed door
or not. Might even be a break-off on the listen skill. That is all."
>
The extremely short figure in a dark, hooded cloak gives the Staff of
Pontification to Sanvean the Enigmatic.
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic gives the Staff of Pontification to Halaster the
Shroud of Death.
>
Halaster the Shroud of Death says:
"I think fearing and the mystery of mages is a two-way street.."
>
Halaster the Shroud of Death says:
"People aren't going to fear them, or hate them, if they're not given
a reason to, no matter how hard we try to force them."
>
Halaster the Shroud of Death says:
"So, if you want people to fear mages again (altho, I think a lot of
people do still RP that), give them a reason."
>
Halaster the Shroud of Death says:
"Play a mage who eats their babies for breakfast, or threatens to
steal your soul, or whatever."
>
Halaster the Shroud of Death says:
"Peoiple are no longer scared of mages because they haven't been given
a reason to.. lately."
>
Halaster the Shroud of Death gives the Staff of Pontification to Sanvean the
Enigmatic.
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic gives the Staff of Pontification to the long-armed,
one-handed dwarf.
>
The long-armed, one-handed dwarf says:
"I would have to say that there is no real place for the burglar class."
>
The long-armed, one-handed dwarf says:
"Players will take everything from anywhere whether it is realistic or
not for them to do so."
>
The long-armed, one-handed dwarf says:
"In my experience anyway, they'll take anything that they can possibly
carry even if there is an NPC right there."
>
The long-armed, one-handed dwarf says:
"However, if the class is to stay I think that there will have to be
more places to be built to break in."
>
The long-armed, one-handed dwarf says:
"I agree with whoever said that they should perhaps allow the players
to help with the work of building it all. "
>
The long-armed, one-handed dwarf says:
"I think that if a house could be marked as an NPC house that some
script would place an angry NPC there to discourage."
>
The long-armed, one-handed dwarf says:
"A lot of NPC houses, which have NPC's inside them ready to call the
guards would be good IMHO but a lot of work."
>
The long-armed, one-handed dwarf says:
"No one (as far as I have seen) expects hunters to find virtual prey
all the time so why should burglars."
>
The long-armed, one-handed dwarf gives the Staff of Pontification to Sanvean
the Enigmatic.
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic gives the Staff of Pontification to the aged, one-eyed
dwarven man.
>
The aged, one-eyed dwarven man says:
"Just on a side note, another method that most people do not seem to
consider when seeking to gain access to a restricted facility is infiltration."
>
The aged, one-eyed dwarven man says:
"It stands to reason that one could join a clan or organization with the
sole intent of commiting theft or some other dark deed. Unless I am mistaken,
this is a plausable manner of burglary."
>
The aged, one-eyed dwarven man says:
"This could potentially also render the hiring situation more realistic,
as people will be less reluctant to descriminate against characters of dubious
intentions, and may help serve to create distrust, which I think is something
we could use these"
>
The aged, one-eyed dwarven man says:
"Of course, it should be vital to make one's intentions clear to the
staff (especially the clan immortal) before actually joining the clan, as to
prevent any misunderstandings."
>
The aged, one-eyed dwarven man says:
"While this proposal is not exactly in league with the focus of the
current topic, Vendyra's statement brought up the idea, and I thought it
might be worth mentioning for debate. Thank you."
>
The aged, one-eyed dwarven man gives the Staff of Pontification to Sanvean
the Enigmatic.
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic gives the Staff of Pontification to the short male
wearing a mask of Thrain Ironsword.
>
The short male wearing a mask of Thrain Ironsword says:
"On bribing, I disagree completely. First off, the guards of the noble
Houses have been brainwashed for years to their duties.. And second, unless
you offered them some insane amount (likely more than you'd make off "
>
The short male wearing a mask of Thrain Ironsword says:
"everything inside), they would never even consider loosing their hefty
monthly pay."
>
The short male wearing a mask of Thrain Ironsword says:
"As the aged dwarf said, and I said earlier, find a different way to
enter, if that is what your character's heart desires. I know estates that
have been buglerized by thieves under cover as employees. Just know that"
>
The short male wearing a mask of Thrain Ironsword says:
"most end up dead, quickly after.. All in all, breaking into an Estate
in -not- something any character should think about without fear, IC."
>
The short male wearing a long-beaked erdlu mask has lost link.
>
The short male wearing a mask of Thrain Ironsword says:
"In regards to thieves and burglars becoming a karma class, I couldn't
agree more.. Even from what has been said already, those classes require
some definitely large amount of rp. In fact, in my opinion, they require"
>
The short male wearing a mask of Thrain Ironsword says:
"more rp than even some of the current karma classes. I definitely think
they should at least be bumped up to the first karma tier, with.. What is it
now, d-elves?"
>
The short male wearing a mask of Thrain Ironsword says:
"Now, on magic being more common? Well, hey for one, maybe it is becoming
more common.. But largely, I think you're over reacting. As Halaster said
though, how people react is largely up to how paeople play"
>
The short male wearing a mask of Thrain Ironsword says:
"them. And I think mages have been warmking up to society somewhat... Up
to those with the karma to change, if that is how they wish to come across.."
>
The short male wearing a mask of Thrain Ironsword gives the Staff of
Pontification to Sanvean the Enigmatic.
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic gives the Staff of Pontification to the very short
figure in a set of hooded, water-hued robes wearing a mask of Thrain Ironsword.
>
The very short figure in a set of hooded, water-hued robes wearing a mask of
Thrain Ironsword says:
"Evenin' all. A quick couple of points on the magicker thing. :)"
>
The very short figure in a set of hooded, water-hued robes wearing a mask of
Thrain Ironsword says:
"I am not completely sure it's the mindset of the populace, it's more on
the magicker itself. Lately we've had a string of magickers hired by the
templarate, treating these magickers as lepers would be a bit risky for your
character."
>
The very short figure in a set of hooded, water-hued robes wearing a mask of
Thrain Ironsword says:
"I know many people who openly snub magickers, but beyond that, just
because a person is being civil to a magicker by no means does it stand for
'accepting it', lots of times they are thinking evil thoughts and acting
nicely, that's the whole point"
>
The very short figure in a set of hooded, water-hued robes wearing a mask
of Thrain Ironsword says:
"Also, please be aware that the newbie populace has grown considerably
and like it or not, their mindset is not fully "Arm'ed" yet. These things
must be learned, just like the emote system. It's tough to play, a mage."
>
The very short figure in a set of hooded, water-hued robes wearing a mask of
Thrain Ironsword says:
"Finally, like it or not, lots of characters are smooth enough to be
liked even though you -want- or -should- hate them. Changing the general
mindset is one of the reasons this game is as addicting as it is and last:"
>
The very short figure in a set of hooded, water-hued robes wearing a mask
of Thrain Ironsword says:
"You just never ever know what is going on behind the scenes, things
are -never- what they appear to be on Armageddon. :)"
>
The very short figure in a set of hooded, water-hued robes wearing a mask
of Thrain Ironsword gives the Staff of Pontification to Sanvean the Enigmatic.
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic gives the Staff of Pontification to the slender,
scorpion-tattooed man.
>
The slender, scorpion-tattooed man says:
"I feel as if magickers, and magick in general, has already done enough
to have the populace scared of them and their ilk. If a person sprouted
flames after chanting words, I'd be telling people that story for the rest
of my life."
>
The slender, scorpion-tattooed man says:
"If anyone you know has been affected by it, then it may change your
opinion for the better or worse, but merely seeing it should frighten the
living bejeezus out of most folks."
>
The slender, scorpion-tattooed man says:
"These are people who can't read, can't write, live on a verbal
story-based society for history and spoon fed what the powers that be
want them to know."
>
The slender, scorpion-tattooed man says:
"And what they want them to know, more often than not in the cities,
is that magick is how we smack you down. Cities have been destroyed by
magick and we're just going to say, man - Pete's a cool guy, he may burn
people alive here and there, but h"
>
The slender, scorpion-tattooed man says:
"...he speaks well for himself. I believe part of the problem lay in
the newbies, part of the problem lay in the mages and part of the problem
lay in the employeres of the mages."
>
The slender, scorpion-tattooed man says:
"The templars, nobility and other folks who employ mages that allow
them to somehow cross social boundaries by feeling as if the House's sigil
upon their cloak makes them accepted."
>
The slender, scorpion-tattooed man says:
"I believe it is the job of the employer in question to make plain to
the mage that they are STILL feared by the populace, perhaps to use them to
frighten, but to keep them quiet and working."
>
The slender, scorpion-tattooed man says:
"Mages are frightening creatures that poor commoners likely shy from and
so these employers should be more responsible in keeping the magickers from
sitting around in common places, chatting it up without purpose or reason."
>
The slender, scorpion-tattooed man gives the Staff of Pontification to
Sanvean the Enigmatic.
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic gives the Staff of Pontification to the very short
figure in a hooded brown sandcloth cloak wearing a horned carru mask.
>
The very short figure in a hooded brown sandcloth cloak wearing a horned
carru mask says:
"As for people not fearing magickers... The way I see it is everyone's
gotten kind of used to them. Magick is almost normal now. Sure, we're still
scared of it, but not of the people themselves. That's how I see it anyways."
>
The very short figure in a hooded brown sandcloth cloak wearing a horned
carru mask gives the Staff of Pontification to Sanvean the Enigmatic.
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic gives the Staff of Pontification to the very short
figure in a dusty, hooded, brown military aba.
>
The very short figure in a dusty, hooded, brown military aba says:
"About the magick issue, (i'll take it you mean 'nak) the problem
I think, is simply the influx of newbies, who just don't want to roleplay
fear or prejudice, or whatnot, whether the character itself would do it
realistically or not. "
>
The short male wearing a long-beaked erdlu mask has reconnected.
>
The very short figure in a dusty, hooded, brown military aba says:
"Magick should always be feared, ESPECIALLY the non-virtual, PCs make
up a scant amount of the magickers in 'nak, and so all you see are the pc
magickers, who may not be giving off a fear vibe, but still should be
sitting alone at the bar that's fo"
>
The very short figure in a dusty, hooded, brown military aba says:
"..for sure. Friendly magicker is an oxymoron if I ever heard one."
>
The very short figure in a dusty, hooded, brown military aba says:
"ooc It takes time to get into the flow of Armageddon, for me it took
years. When I was new, all of my characters hated slavery because, irl, I
felt strongly against what happened to slaves in america. "
>
The very short figure in a dusty, hooded, brown military aba says:
"ooc Now though, more experienced and more mature about the roles I
play, I can truly play the thought-pattern of a commoner on slavery in
zalanthas, and a few characters ago I played a slave."
>
The very short figure in a dusty, hooded, brown military aba says:
"Remember that Allanak is the newbie-central city of arm, and the
Byn is mud school, ;)."
>
The very short figure in a dusty, hooded, brown military aba gives the
Staff of Pontification to Sanvean the Enigmatic.
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic gives the Staff of Pontification to the very short
male wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask.
>
The very short male wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask says:
"Just a brief agreement about the magicker-fear issue, at least in
Allanak. I think a great deal of why magicker 'fear' has waned is that
unless you're playing an ungemmed magicker in the city, you're practically
force-hired by the Templarate as so"
>
The very short male wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask says:
"soon as you go to apply for your gem. Most magickers are civil
servants these days and, as such, are regarded as 'loyal friends of the
city' that the Templarate will execute you for screwing with. Of course
Templars themselves are pretty scary, so"
>
The very short male wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask says:
"so their servants may be too. But these days its only because of who
they serve, not what they can -do-. Until templars don't have the power to
lay the "work for me or die, magicker' line down anytime someone comes to
get a gem, the 'mystique and "
>
The very short male wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask says:
"and fear' concept is going to be compromised."
>
The very short male wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask says:
"which isn't necessarily a bad thing, if thats the slant everyone
wants the mud to take. But then, what are mages but Templars with better
spells and less political power?"
>
The very short male wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask gives the
Staff of Pontification to Sanvean the Enigmatic.
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic gives the Staff of Pontification to Bhagharva the
Purulent.
>
Bhagharva the Purulent says:
"I played a magicker, people knew me and I wasn't a templars gortok."
>
Bhagharva the Purulent says:
"People were scared of me. "
>
Bhagharva the Purulent gives the Staff of Pontification to Sanvean the
Enigmatic.
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic gives the Staff of Pontification to the short male
wearing a glossy black mantis mask.
>
The short male wearing a glossy black mantis mask says:
"I've played one of those 'accepted' mages in 'nak... its up to the
player as well to get the feeling "
>
The short male wearing a glossy black mantis mask says:
"across that they are not likes."
>
The short male wearing a glossy black mantis mask says:
"I've had VNPCS throw things at me in the taverns.. Curses... And
would even use the emote magics to make the pc a bit"
>
The short male wearing a glossy black mantis mask says:
"more frightening. Halaster said it is a two way street and it is.
Keep hate alive in Zalanthas.."
>
The short male wearing a glossy black mantis mask gives the Staff of
Pontification to Sanvean the Enigmatic.
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic gives the Staff of Pontification to the extremely
short and thin figure in an ankle-length purple djellabah.
>
The extremely short and thin figure in an ankle-length purple djellabah says:
"Back to the magicker issue again: I agree that I think perhaps things
have gotten a little soft on those dirty finger-wigglers. For a while,
things were great, and there was a plot in allanak (imm run?) involving
all sorts"
>
The extremely short and thin figure in an ankle-length purple djellabah says:
"of bad things going on - it was all over the rumour boards over a
period of two or three months. Sure, maybe all the PC magickers are
actually not too-evil people (on the outside, at least, everyone knows
they eat babies)"
>
The extremely short and thin figure in an ankle-length purple djellabah says:
"but maybe we need some staff-run magickers stirring things up like
they were again? As far as I know that plot just... stopped happening.
I thought it was great, and added to the flavour and tension in the city."
>
The extremely short and thin figure in an ankle-length purple djellabah says:
"Would anyone else like to see something like this brought up? Part of
the fear is fear of the unknown, but some people know all the things that
magickers can do. Staff-run magickers do not have this"
>
The extremely short and thin figure in an ankle-length purple djellabah says:
"problem... they can do damn near whatever they want, since they'll
always be around to set up their own emote magick. Why not get some
anti-magick plot stirring again?"
>
The extremely short and thin figure in an ankle-length purple djellabah
gives the Staff of Pontification to Sanvean the Enigmatic.
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic gives the Staff of Pontification to the short figure
in a black and azure hooded cloak wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask.
>
The short figure in a black and azure hooded cloak wearing a cheap, black
Darth Vader mask says:
"As far as the gem issue, Have one forsale in the hall of the ancients
or whatever its called, Solves the force hire issue"
>
The short figure in a black and azure hooded cloak wearing a cheap, black
Darth Vader mask gives the Staff of Pontification to Sanvean the Enigmatic.
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic gives the Staff of Pontification to the short figure
in a voluminous, gray hooded windcloak.
>
The short figure in a voluminous, gray hooded windcloak says:
"Back to the thing on bringing OOC prejudices into the game. Since I've
read nothing suggesting the laws or religions"
>
The short figure in a voluminous, gray hooded windcloak says:
"of Zalanthas say anything at all about how people form families or have
relationships, I think it's unrealistic for "
>
The short figure in a voluminous, gray hooded windcloak says:
"the common folk to be judgmental about who is sleeping with, or living
with who. Of course, it's good gossip.."
>
The short figure in a voluminous, gray hooded windcloak says:
"but it should be more something to laugh over than something to condemn
others for."
>
The short figure in a voluminous, gray hooded windcloak says:
"Also, I think there is a bit of a problem with commoners not recognizing
the subtle differences in status between"
>
The short figure in a voluminous, gray hooded windcloak says:
"themselves and other commoners. Everyone knows to bow to nobles and
templars, but how should an Elite treat a militia soldier"
>
The short figure in a voluminous, gray hooded windcloak says:
"or how should a wealthy independant merchant treat an employee of a
merchant House? That sort of thing"
>
The short figure in a voluminous, gray hooded windcloak says:
"I would like to see more discussion on, because it's realistic that
these people would ICly be competing for status."
>
The short figure in a voluminous, gray hooded windcloak says:
"This status thing also relates to magickers, a bit, because it's silly
to have magickers that are in the employ of a noble or"
>
The short figure in a voluminous, gray hooded windcloak says:
"templar be treated as harmless just because you don't want to get on
their boss's bad side. I'd like to see less nobles and templars treating
magickers like any other employee."
>
The short figure in a voluminous, gray hooded windcloak gives the Staff of
Pontification to Sanvean the Enigmatic.
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic says:
"Let me bring this up, b/c I'm curious what people would like to see
happening in the Northlands over the next year or so?"
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic says:
"You've seen the bare bones go in so far, and it's pretty open-ended
so far."
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic says:
"I'm hoping that players get a chance to shape things as they go in,
so what things would people like to see happen up there?"
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic says:
"wish to me if you'd like to speak on that"
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic gives the Staff of Pontification to the very short
figure in a dusty, hooded, brown military aba.
>
The very short figure in a dusty, hooded, brown military aba says:
"Would definitely like to see an Arena, and the presence of the sun
king, and the milita needs to flesh out the pbase I think a bit, also the
roads are very long"
>
The very short figure in a dusty, hooded, brown military aba gives the
Staff of Pontification to Sanvean the Enigmatic.
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic gives the Staff of Pontification to the short male
wearing a badly made Obi Wan Kenobi mask.
>
The short male wearing a badly made Obi Wan Kenobi mask says:
"I think that with regard to Tuluk's entertainment, it should vary
from Allanak. The arena is fine and good, but Tuluk has always been more
of a city for artistry IMO."
>
The short male wearing a badly made Obi Wan Kenobi mask says:
"We have the new poets circle and what not. PErhpas more could be
done with that? Instead of massive battles in the arena for entertainment,
instead, plays and shows etc."
>
The short male wearing a badly made Obi Wan Kenobi mask gives the Staff of
Pontification to Sanvean the Enigmatic.
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic gives the Staff of Pontification to the slender,
scorpion-tattooed man.
>
The slender, scorpion-tattooed man says:
"I'd actually like to see a difference between Allanak and its concepts,
environment, visible government and habits as much as possible."
>
The slender, scorpion-tattooed man says:
"I think it would be refreshing if Tuluk was not a "northern Allanak"
with different names for taversn and different names for shops and a few
varied items."
>
The slender, scorpion-tattooed man says:
"I'd like to see locations, buildings and NPC's that reflect a
difference in governing style, physical attributes of people, social
importance of art and music and anything to give it a different feel
besides endless, endless roads."
>
The slender, scorpion-tattooed man says:
"The south always calls the northerners 'barbarians' and while the bulk
of the populace are all of the same general educational level (commoners) so
there must be SOME basis for this belief, which may be propoganda, but also
may be..."
>
The slender, scorpion-tattooed man says:
"...the sheer physical differences and the fact that they were begun as
conquered tribes of an arid, plains people."
>
The slender, scorpion-tattooed man gives the Staff of Pontification to
Sanvean the Enigmatic.
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic gives the Staff of Pontification to Vendyra the Queen
of Purity and Yoohoo.
>
Vendyra the Queen of Purity and Yoohoo says:
"I feel that it's pertinent to get a good social structure running in
Tuluk. A few months ago, it was a group of independent people hunting and
smoking spice. Bringing back Houses or other employment opportunities could
definitely bring an increa"
>
Vendyra the Queen of Purity and Yoohoo says:
"ease in characters there. To offer a person a more set future is
something that I think would be helpful. They don't have to worry about
making a merchant up north and wonder how they'll survive."
>
Vendyra the Queen of Purity and Yoohoo says:
"Society is different in Tuluk then in Allanak, and i'd like to see
the variation becoming more obvious, as well."
>
Vendyra the Queen of Purity and Yoohoo gives the Staff of Pontification to
Sanvean the Enigmatic.
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic gives the Staff of Pontification to the aged, one-eyed
dwarven man.
>
The aged, one-eyed dwarven man says:
"I would like to see more of the arts in New Tuluk, especially with
regards to adornments and ornamental attire. Exotic clothes with plumes of
feathers or bright paints, jewelry crafted from native resources, et cetera."
>
The aged, one-eyed dwarven man says:
"The documents state that northern culture tends to be artistically
inclined, and I would like to see that manifest in-game. The North should
have a unique style and feel to it, I think."
>
The aged, one-eyed dwarven man says:
"Oh, and a gambling hall of some sort would definately be a welcome
addition. I have immensely enjoyed most of the games available in Zalanthas
that I have tried, and I would like to see more of such things."
>
The aged, one-eyed dwarven man gives the Staff of Pontification to Sanvean
the Enigmatic.
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic gives the Staff of Pontification to the long-armed,
one-handed dwarf.
>
The long-armed, one-handed dwarf says:
"I would like to see some more housing, and NEW imm-sponsered groups
that rise up based on the Pc's."
>
The long-armed, one-handed dwarf says:
"Instead of just southern groups with expanded northern presenses or
old northern houses."
>
The long-armed, one-handed dwarf says:
"Since everything is being rebuilt it would seem to make sense for
there to be new mercenary groups merchant houses etc."
>
The long-armed, one-handed dwarf says:
"Sometimes I feel like Tuluk is turning into Allanak:North."
>
The long-armed, one-handed dwarf gives the Staff of Pontification to
Sanvean the Enigmatic.
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic gives the Staff of Pontification to the male wearing
a gimpka rat mask.
>
The male wearing a gimpka rat mask says:
"Yes, the roads are a bit much. At the very least I think the jail
should be closer to the popular PC centers. There is no way someone can
subdue and drag a criminal the 30+ rooms from anywhere without resting. "
>
The male wearing a gimpka rat mask says:
"Also, I wouldn't mind seeing the Arena opened up, it would open up
some more RP for the hunters, and even something for House Winrothol to do."
>
The male wearing a gimpka rat mask gives the Staff of Pontification to
Sanvean the Enigmatic.
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic gives the Staff of Pontification to the vermilion
dreadlocked man.
>
The vermilion dreadlocked man says:
"I think there should ALOT more militia and templars in the northlands.
I've seen one militia and no pc templars in the north with a char. People
will just want to talk to PC templars to get employed and other things. Also
their structure and belie"
>
The vermilion dreadlocked man says:
"and belief should be alot different than allank. They broke away, they
want to be different. Maybe even open a house for the northern artistry to
cover that issue. *shrug*"
>
The vermilion dreadlocked man gives the Staff of Pontification to Sanvean the
Enigmatic.
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic says:
"Let me say that the endless roads business, which Laeris has been
catching endless amounts of complaints over, is partially my fault."
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic says:
"Originally New Tuluk was built as a completed city. But rather than
just have this huge, complicated (and nicely written) city appear out of
thin air one day...."
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic says:
"At my suggestion, Laeris copied it over into another zone and built
an earlier version. New Tuluk, 100 years earlier - all empty fields and
barren lots."
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic says:
"You end up with all those scads and scads of roadways. On the plus
side, players have more areas they can affect, thus changing the final
version."
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic says:
"So it is being worked on, and will change (or at least become more
acceptable/worthwhile) over the course of time."
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic gives the Staff of Pontification to the short male
wearing a mask of Thrain Ironsword.
>
The short male wearing a mask of Thrain Ironsword says:
"Just on the topic of art.. Well.. Yes, Tuluk has great artistic
-craftsmen-.. But at the end of the day, most of the coin passed around
comes from hunters.. Who would defintely like to see a beast slaughtered,"
>
The short male wearing a mask of Thrain Ironsword says:
"after being chased by one all day... Not saying art shouldn't be a
focus, in fact a think a lot more should be done with that. As some else
said, especially with exotic clothing and such.. What I had also hoped
for, was a"
>
The short male wearing a mask of Thrain Ironsword says:
"small artist's conclave, as an idea for what could be done with
that.But I still think an Arena is needed. Especially since House Winrothol
breeds gladiators, who need a place to fight in, that's coded. And as I
bring up"
>
The short male wearing a mask of Thrain Ironsword says:
"Winrothol, I think there are a number of other Houses that could be
opened up to the p-base. And props to Vendyra and the job she's doing with
Winrothol so far.. As far as Merchant houses, I think that's well covered"
>
The short male wearing a mask of Thrain Ironsword says:
"with Salarr and Kadius.. They have always had a strong presence there
and that isn't something that would change..."
>
The short male wearing a mask of Thrain Ironsword says:
"Also, more real-estate -is- needed, but I know that is also something
that is being worked on, both by the imms and players."
>
The short male wearing a mask of Thrain Ironsword gives the Staff of
Pontification to Sanvean the Enigmatic.
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic gives the Staff of Pontification to A mottled,
crimson-grained Laeris.
>
The form of Bhagharva collapses into a pile of roaches, scurrying off
into the cracks and crevices.
>
A mottled, crimson-grained Laeris says:
"In regards to the social structure of Tuluk and how it differs from
Allanak, it does in fact differ significantly."
>
A mottled, crimson-grained Laeris says:
"I'm going to try and put up a doc tonight that details the social
structure of Tuluk."
>
A mottled, crimson-grained Laeris says:
"Similar to what Sanvean came up with for Allanak."
>
A mottled, crimson-grained Laeris says:
"As for opening it up to more pc templars and nobles, I'm not opposed
to doing that."
>
A mottled, crimson-grained Laeris says:
"My concern is that there's not very many pcs up there at the moment
and I don't want it to turn into a city full of pc templars and nobles, with
little else."
>
A mottled, crimson-grained Laeris says:
"I'm working on maintaining a fine balance with that and hopefully you
should see some new roles opening up soon."
>
A mottled, crimson-grained Laeris says:
"Regarding the artistry and craftsmanship of Tuluk, yes, there is a
district that is currently devoted to that specifically."
>
A mottled, crimson-grained Laeris says:
"And as the city grows, it will grow as well."
>
A mottled, crimson-grained Laeris says:
"If anyone is interested in playing a special role in the Northlands,
or has any suggestions on how to balance that with a lack of players, do feel
free to email me."
>
A mottled, crimson-grained Laeris gives the Staff of Pontification to Sanvean
the Enigmatic.
>
The very short figure in a dusty, hooded, brown military aba has lost link.
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic says:
"I also have a role coming open up there, which I posted about on the
GDB in the Annoucnements section."
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic gives the Staff of Pontification to the short figure
in a black and azure hooded cloak wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask.
>
The short figure in a black and azure hooded cloak wearing a cheap, black
Darth Vader mask says:
"Upon the seperation between the two states, perhaps a universal coin
of the realm not named the alanakki obsidian piece would help too?"
>
The short figure in a black and azure hooded cloak wearing a cheap, black
Darth Vader mask gives the Staff of Pontification to Sanvean the Enigmatic.
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic says:
"We've been going an hour and a half so I'd like to start wrapping up."
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic says:
"Please wish to me if you have last comments or suggestions you'd like
to air before we close down."
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic gives the Staff of Pontification to the short figure
in a black and azure hooded cloak wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask.
>
The short figure in a black and azure hooded cloak wearing a cheap, black
Darth Vader mask says:
"Alright, I just have one comment, Due to the new beasts critters and
such about Nak, I would like to see then decreased around the actual city,
there are Vhunters and such that take care of the outalying parts and just
doesn't make since to me tha"
>
The short figure in a black and azure hooded cloak wearing a cheap, black
Darth Vader mask says:
"so close to the city there are so many beasties, That makes crafters
virtually impossable to play, due to the large amount of resources needed,
Yes keep them areas harsh, and undaunting, but perhaps make more items for
crafting available to the cr"
>
The short figure in a black and azure hooded cloak wearing a cheap, black
Darth Vader mask says:
"crafters too, I played a stone crafter who couldn't get any stones for
fear of dieing ICly and OOCly"
>
The short figure in a black and azure hooded cloak wearing a cheap, black
Darth Vader mask gives the Staff of Pontification to Sanvean the Enigmatic.
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic gives the Staff of Pontification to the long-armed,
one-handed dwarf.
>
The long-armed, one-handed dwarf says:
"I would just like to agree with Laeris about the lack of players in
the north. As it is there is"
>
The long-armed, one-handed dwarf says:
"a lot of people competing to hire just a few players. Adding more nobles
and templars wouldn't help."
>
The long-armed, one-handed dwarf gives the Staff of Pontification to Sanvean
the Enigmatic.
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic gives the Staff of Pontification to the extremely short
figure in a hooded, bright green sandcloth cloak.
>
The extremely short figure in a hooded, bright green sandcloth cloak says:
"I'd like to bring up the noble-commoner rp. I don't know if it's still
the trend in south, but last I was there, nobles did a good job of separating
the gap between themselves and the commoners."
>
The extremely short figure in a hooded, bright green sandcloth cloak says:
"However, up in north, due to the lack of templar/noble presence, I
haven't seen much. Nobody's fault there. But since we're wanting to
differientate it from the south, perhaps a different style of interaction"
>
The extremely short figure in a hooded, bright green sandcloth cloak says:
"could be considered. Different way of paying your respects, or how you
appraoch them, etc."
>
The extremely short figure in a hooded, bright green sandcloth cloak gives the
Staff of Pontification to Sanvean the Enigmatic.
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic gives the Staff of Pontification to Vendyra the Queen of
Purity and Yoohoo.
>
Vendyra the Queen of Purity and Yoohoo says:
"I consider myself to be a rather new staff member here. I know that the
other immortals realize my appreciation for what they do, but i'd like to
thank you all for being here. What makes Armageddon so unique is that the
players have such influen"
>
Vendyra the Queen of Purity and Yoohoo says:
"ce in the way Zalanthas changes. Your submissions and ideas are always
delightedly accepted. Thank you for working to make Armageddon a better place
:)"
>
Vendyra the Queen of Purity and Yoohoo gives the Staff of Pontification to
Sanvean the Enigmatic.
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic gives the Staff of Pontification to the lean sun-bronzed
female.
>
The lean sun-bronzed female says:
"I just wanted to say.."
>
The lean sun-bronzed female says:
"One thing I would like to see with the northlands with regards to
Merchant houses is a diference in the types of goods that are available to
be loaded. An example would be only loading a few wooden items in the south,
unless they have wood to be "
>
The lean sun-bronzed female says:
"only loading a few wooden items in the south, unless they have wood to
be 'transfored'"
>
The lean sun-bronzed female says:
"Also, I love that idea about diferent coinage that was proposed."
>
The lean sun-bronzed female gives the Staff of Pontification to Sanvean the
Enigmatic.
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic gives the Staff of Pontification to the short male
wearing a mask of Thrain Ironsword.
>
The short male wearing a mask of Thrain Ironsword says:
"One of the things I wanted to mention was wear/tattoo locations... For
one, I feel feet clothing, especially since 95% of the players wear boots,
should cover ankle tattoos..."
>
The short male wearing a mask of Thrain Ironsword says:
"Many, as I have discussed this before with others, have to wear wraps
and anklets just to cover the tattoos that wouldn't be visible IC. Same with
torso clothing and shoulder tattoos.. They shouldn't be visible."
>
The short male wearing a mask of Thrain Ironsword says:
"Now, I know it's the easiest thing to have just that spot cover the
tattoo, but I think some time spent in the cover code to change that would
be well appreciated."
>
The short male wearing a mask of Thrain Ironsword says:
"Also, the other thing we could use are ears being able to have more
than one item on them, maybe three or so. Sleeves and torsos could also use
a second layer above them.. Listed as "over arms" for armbands and such.."
>
The short male wearing a mask of Thrain Ironsword says:
"No logical reason one couldn't wear such things over their sleevs, and
there are so few items that would need to be changed to the 'over' category
that it shouldn't take more than a week of players bugging these things."
>
The short male wearing a mask of Thrain Ironsword says:
"Same thing with shirts and vests/jackets... Unreasonable that someone
has to wear a jacket with no shirt under, or only a vest..."
>
The short male wearing a mask of Thrain Ironsword says:
"Lastly, I'd like to bring up the assess cmd, especially with regards to
things like bows. I really don't see how we can know if the bow is up to our
strength when we view it behind a counter, but not when it is in our"
>
The short male wearing a mask of Thrain Ironsword says:
"hands. I think it would be a simple matter to cut and paste the code
from the view to the assess..."
>
The short male wearing a mask of Thrain Ironsword says:
"And about the merchant Houses? Not to break IC info here, but their
wares really do differ from north to south. Especially with regards to wood."
>
The short male wearing a mask of Thrain Ironsword says:
"Travel around and check :)"
>
The short male wearing a mask of Thrain Ironsword gives the Staff of
Pontification to Sanvean the Enigmatic.
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic gives the Staff of Pontification to the vermilion
dreadlocked man.
>
The vermilion dreadlocked man says:
"about the art issue? Make a new house? House artisto>:}? crafting
items hard to find? Hire someone :)"
>
The vermilion dreadlocked man says:
"about layers of clothes? You can wear 50 layers of pants if you want.
People want light but protective clothes."
>
The vermilion dreadlocked man says:
"they want to keep comfortable in the heat but not be naked either."
>
The vermilion dreadlocked man gives the Staff of Pontification to Sanvean the
Enigmatic.
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic gives the Staff of Pontification to the vermilion
dreadlocked man.
>
The vermilion dreadlocked man gives the Staff of Pontification to Sanvean
the Enigmatic.
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic gives the Staff of Pontification to the very short
figure in a dark, hooded cloak.
>
The very short figure in a dark, hooded cloak says:
"North and South nobles are born into their positions, or at least the
majority, unless I am wrong. There used to be a Grey Hunt in the north for
commoners to rise to the nobility."
>
The very short figure in a dark, hooded cloak says:
"Maybe bring that back on a larger scale. Southland nobles can be the
blue-bloods, northland nobles skilled huntsmen and swordsmen. I'd think it
would make for a huge difference in interaction between the different nobles
and commoners"
>
The very short figure in a dark, hooded cloak gives the Staff of Pontification
to Sanvean the Enigmatic.
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic gives the Staff of Pontification to the short male
wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask.
>
The short male wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask says:
"one thing about 'look' command. Can it be changed that only the looker
and the look-on person who get that emote/prompt? because in taverns, its
usually one person looks, all the rest follow him with the look command :)"
>
The short male wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask gives the Staff of
Pontification to Sanvean the Enigmatic.
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic gives the Staff of Pontification to the very short
male wearing a halfgiant librarian mask.
>
The very short male wearing a halfgiant librarian mask says:
"Someone made the comment about elves being difficult to play, I think
alot of this comes with the fact that a major part of an Elf is lost when you
play a tribeless one. This is for both City and Desert Elves. "
>
The very short male wearing a floppy-eared tregil mask has lost link.
>
The very short male wearing a halfgiant librarian mask says:
"I personally see a really good job with people treating elves poorly,
alot of people really need to learn to play the tribal part of the elves,
this is where the "elven pride" really comes from, without it, alot of the
elven character is lost."
>
The very short male wearing a halfgiant librarian mask gives the Staff of
Pontification to Sanvean the Enigmatic.
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic gives the Staff of Pontification to Halaster the Shroud
of Death.
>
Halaster the Shroud of Death says:
"to quickly address the view/assess comment..."
>
Halaster the Shroud of Death says:
"The reason you can see a bow's pull from view is so that you don't have
to buy it, assess/test it, then realize you can't use it.."
>
Halaster the Shroud of Death says:
"then have to try and sell it back, and lose a crapload of money."
>
Halaster the Shroud of Death says:
"BEsides, you can RP it where the merchant allowed you to hold it and
test it a moment (view)"
>
Halaster the Shroud of Death gives the Staff of Pontification to Sanvean the
Enigmatic.
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic gives the Staff of Pontification to the short figure in
a black and azure hooded cloak wearing a cheap, black Darth Vader mask.
>
The short figure in a black and azure hooded cloak wearing a cheap, black
Darth Vader mask says:
"Can we get some feedback posted with this when it is made available to
everyone too? So we can hear what the staff thinks of the ideas and such?"
>
The short figure in a black and azure hooded cloak wearing a cheap, black
Darth Vader mask gives the Staff of Pontification to Sanvean the Enigmatic.
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic gives the Staff of Pontification to the short male
wearing a badly made Obi Wan Kenobi mask.
>
The short male wearing a badly made Obi Wan Kenobi mask says:
"I'd have to agree about the Tuluk noble titles. Hlum noble titles they
were called. I think more ability based noble titles and not necessarily the
traditional full family and house thing might bring a needed change and
distinction."
>
The short male wearing a badly made Obi Wan Kenobi mask says:
"It would also allow Tuluk to keep true to their routes. Although I
will point out that in the What You know Northlands document, it does state
that they have been for the most part done away with."
>
The short male wearing a badly made Obi Wan Kenobi mask gives the Staff of
Pontification to Sanvean the Enigmatic.
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic says:
"I'm going to close up here and thank you all kindly for coming."
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic says:
"We'll post the log and I know I've got some feedback which I'll post
within the next day, I presume other staff will as well."
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic says:
"Now we will start moving you all back."
>
Sanvean the Enigmatic says:
"put it in your objective if you need to be returned and set it back to
something else when you're taken care of"